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		<title>By: Neva Marjory</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25039</link>
		<author>Neva Marjory</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer,

this was great. and although i've been reading this forum now for a
few month s(diagnosed feb 07) it was nice to read it again.

stacy,

i did what jennifer suggests ... test test test... what i found out
was that no matter how many carbs i eat, my blood sugar would shoot
up 100 points approximately with in an hour of eating and wouldn't
start dropping until hour 4. i did more then 8 times a day testing
because the numbers weren't &#34;normal&#34; like all the websites say it
should react. so for a short period of time i logged everything i
ate, drank, when i took my medicines (which would shoot my blood
sugar up) and what i did for exercise and every hour on the hour i'd
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test my blood sugar.

gave me great insight. my numbers before byetta averaged between
180-295. now they normally don't go over 200ish (when i've had a
bad day).

good luck :) linda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer,</p>
<p>this was great. and although i&#8217;ve been reading this forum now for a<br />
few month s(diagnosed feb 07) it was nice to read it again.</p>
<p>stacy,</p>
<p>i did what jennifer suggests &#8230; test test test&#8230; what i found out<br />
was that no matter how many carbs i eat, my blood sugar would shoot<br />
up 100 points approximately with in an hour of eating and wouldn&#8217;t<br />
start dropping until hour 4. i did more then 8 times a day testing<br />
because the numbers weren&#8217;t &quot;normal&quot; like all the websites say it<br />
should react. so for a short period of time i logged everything i<br />
ate, drank, when i took my medicines (which would shoot my blood<br />
sugar up) and what i did for exercise and every hour on the hour i&#8217;d<br />
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test my blood sugar.</p>
<p>gave me great insight. my numbers before byetta averaged between<br />
180-295. now they normally don&#8217;t go over 200ish (when i&#8217;ve had a<br />
bad day).</p>
<p>good luck <img src='http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> linda</p>
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		<title>By: beverley90</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25038</link>
		<author>beverley90</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25038</guid>
		<description>u might try uppin ur lantus if your mornings are still that high...
and u can snack.. just make sure it is something good :)
the best thing i have found that helps me.. snack size baggies.. i can use
them to portion out serving sizes .. that helps me from wanting to eat more
and more...
but i would talk to your doc about increasing your lantus.. i have to take
35 at night

***

Hi Ramona:

It might lower my morning sugar but I think the Byetta will stop working; at
least the appetite supressing effect will dissapear. I really want to keep
losing weight and Lantus increases appetite and makes me gain weight. That's
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why I decided to stop taking insulin and try the Byetta in the first place. I
have an appointment with my doctor on Thursday and will see what he thinks.
Thanks for your suggestions.

Suzanne

Selflessness is the goal , not self-realization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u might try uppin ur lantus if your mornings are still that high&#8230;<br />
and u can snack.. just make sure it is something good <img src='http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> the best thing i have found that helps me.. snack size baggies.. i can use<br />
them to portion out serving sizes .. that helps me from wanting to eat more<br />
and more&#8230;<br />
but i would talk to your doc about increasing your lantus.. i have to take<br />
35 at night</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Hi Ramona:</p>
<p>It might lower my morning sugar but I think the Byetta will stop working; at<br />
least the appetite supressing effect will dissapear. I really want to keep<br />
losing weight and Lantus increases appetite and makes me gain weight. That&#8217;s<br />
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why I decided to stop taking insulin and try the Byetta in the first place. I<br />
have an appointment with my doctor on Thursday and will see what he thinks.<br />
Thanks for your suggestions.</p>
<p>Suzanne</p>
<p>Selflessness is the goal , not self-realization.</p>
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		<title>By: Harley Shemika</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25037</link>
		<author>Harley Shemika</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25037</guid>
		<description>u might try uppin ur lantus if your mornings are still that high...
and u can snack.. just make sure it is something good :)
the best thing i have found that helps me.. snack size baggies.. i can use
them to portion out serving sizes .. that helps me from wanting to eat more and
more...
but i would talk to your doc about increasing your lantus.. i have to take 35
at night...
Ramona

Thanks for the testing plan, Jennifer. I'm used to testing first thing in
the morning and before meals and bedtime from when I was taking insulin. I've
started testing two hours after meals since starting on Byetta and that is my
lowest sugar..around 110- 130. My morning sugar is still around 200 even if
I take 15 mg of Lantus before bed. I'm hoping that will improve as my
weight comes down. It occurred to me to ask my doctor for a small dose of
&lt;!--more--&gt;
metformin instead of the Lantus but in the past when I tried it I felt really
sick.....but that was before I had Prilosec. I don't know what to think. I
suspect
that taking insulin with Byetta is kind of defeating the purpose of the
Byetta in terms of training the pancreas to make Beta cells and release
appropriate amounts of insulin after eating. Any thoughts on taking insulin with
byetta....is that working for anyone? I have adapted nicely to the 10 mcg over
the weekend....just a mild headache...the appetite suppressing effect works
all day but I end up needing some will power at night...by about 9:00 PM I'm
looking for a snack. Suzanne

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test'; &#34;&#62;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u might try uppin ur lantus if your mornings are still that high&#8230;<br />
and u can snack.. just make sure it is something good <img src='http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> the best thing i have found that helps me.. snack size baggies.. i can use<br />
them to portion out serving sizes .. that helps me from wanting to eat more and<br />
more&#8230;<br />
but i would talk to your doc about increasing your lantus.. i have to take 35<br />
at night&#8230;<br />
Ramona</p>
<p>Thanks for the testing plan, Jennifer. I&#8217;m used to testing first thing in<br />
the morning and before meals and bedtime from when I was taking insulin. I&#8217;ve<br />
started testing two hours after meals since starting on Byetta and that is my<br />
lowest sugar..around 110- 130. My morning sugar is still around 200 even if<br />
I take 15 mg of Lantus before bed. I&#8217;m hoping that will improve as my<br />
weight comes down. It occurred to me to ask my doctor for a small dose of<br />
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metformin instead of the Lantus but in the past when I tried it I felt really<br />
sick&#8230;..but that was before I had Prilosec. I don&#8217;t know what to think. I<br />
suspect<br />
that taking insulin with Byetta is kind of defeating the purpose of the<br />
Byetta in terms of training the pancreas to make Beta cells and release<br />
appropriate amounts of insulin after eating. Any thoughts on taking insulin with<br />
byetta&#8230;.is that working for anyone? I have adapted nicely to the 10 mcg over<br />
the weekend&#8230;.just a mild headache&#8230;the appetite suppressing effect works<br />
all day but I end up needing some will power at night&#8230;by about 9:00 PM I&#8217;m<br />
looking for a snack. Suzanne</p>
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<p>test&#8217;; &quot;&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: beverley90</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25036</link>
		<author>beverley90</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25036</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the testing plan, Jennifer. I'm used to testing first thing in
the morning and before meals and bedtime from when I was taking insulin. I've
started testing two hours after meals since starting on Byetta and that is my
lowest sugar..around 110- 130. My morning sugar is still around 200 even if
I take 15 mg of Lantus before bed. I'm hoping that will improve as my
weight comes down. It occurred to me to ask my doctor for a small dose of
metformin instead of the Lantus but in the past when I tried it I felt really
sick.....but that was before I had Prilosec. I don't know what to think. I
suspect
that taking insulin with Byetta is kind of defeating the purpose of the
Byetta in terms of training the pancreas to make Beta cells and release
appropriate amounts of insulin after eating. Any thoughts on taking insulin
with
byetta....is that working for anyone? I have adapted nicely to the 10 mcg
over
&lt;!--more--&gt;
the weekend....just a mild headache...the appetite suppressing effect works
all day but I end up needing some will power at night...by about 9:00 PM I'm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the testing plan, Jennifer. I&#8217;m used to testing first thing in<br />
the morning and before meals and bedtime from when I was taking insulin. I&#8217;ve<br />
started testing two hours after meals since starting on Byetta and that is my<br />
lowest sugar..around 110- 130. My morning sugar is still around 200 even if<br />
I take 15 mg of Lantus before bed. I&#8217;m hoping that will improve as my<br />
weight comes down. It occurred to me to ask my doctor for a small dose of<br />
metformin instead of the Lantus but in the past when I tried it I felt really<br />
sick&#8230;..but that was before I had Prilosec. I don&#8217;t know what to think. I<br />
suspect<br />
that taking insulin with Byetta is kind of defeating the purpose of the<br />
Byetta in terms of training the pancreas to make Beta cells and release<br />
appropriate amounts of insulin after eating. Any thoughts on taking insulin<br />
with<br />
byetta&#8230;.is that working for anyone? I have adapted nicely to the 10 mcg<br />
over<br />
<!--more--><br />
the weekend&#8230;.just a mild headache&#8230;the appetite suppressing effect works<br />
all day but I end up needing some will power at night&#8230;by about 9:00 PM I&#8217;m</p>
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		<title>By: beverley90</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25034</link>
		<author>beverley90</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 18:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25034</guid>
		<description>I have been on a very low carb diet to keep my diabetes under control, and
the last few days my MIL has been in the hospital so we had to eat out. Well,
being not used to finding healthier alternatives, I had a big cheeseburger
and fries. I was SO sick. I now know that staying the course on this diet is
the way

*** I find that it's not enough to eat low carb. I only have success at
weight loss when I eat low carb and low fat. I know I've said this before but
the Weight watchers Core plan is a good guide for me. The only carbs I ever
eat have five or more grams of fiber. I also work out in the pool and swim
three days a week. If you have access to a YMCA with a warm water pool it's
the best and safest place to exercise, especially for those of us with too much
weight. You can get a good work out without putting any stress on the</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been on a very low carb diet to keep my diabetes under control, and<br />
the last few days my MIL has been in the hospital so we had to eat out. Well,<br />
being not used to finding healthier alternatives, I had a big cheeseburger<br />
and fries. I was SO sick. I now know that staying the course on this diet is<br />
the way</p>
<p>*** I find that it&#8217;s not enough to eat low carb. I only have success at<br />
weight loss when I eat low carb and low fat. I know I&#8217;ve said this before but<br />
the Weight watchers Core plan is a good guide for me. The only carbs I ever<br />
eat have five or more grams of fiber. I also work out in the pool and swim<br />
three days a week. If you have access to a YMCA with a warm water pool it&#8217;s<br />
the best and safest place to exercise, especially for those of us with too much<br />
weight. You can get a good work out without putting any stress on the</p>
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		<title>By: Jody Hana</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25031</link>
		<author>Jody Hana</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25031</guid>
		<description>I would like to see the testing plan:-)

Stacy

I completely understand. Aim for progress, not perfection.

I've been at this for 8 years and it took a long time before the
changes became second nature. I'm a big proponent of &#34;test test
test&#34;, using your meter to learn about how you and this disease are
co-existing.

Let me know if you want me to post my testing plan.

All the best,

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Jennifer

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see the testing plan:-)</p>
<p>Stacy</p>
<p>I completely understand. Aim for progress, not perfection.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been at this for 8 years and it took a long time before the<br />
changes became second nature. I&#8217;m a big proponent of &quot;test test<br />
test&quot;, using your meter to learn about how you and this disease are<br />
co-existing.</p>
<p>Let me know if you want me to post my testing plan.</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
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		<title>By: Jody Hana</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25030</link>
		<author>Jody Hana</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25030</guid>
		<description>I have been on a very low carb diet to keep my diabetes under control, and the
last few days my MIL has been in the hospital so we had to eat out. Well, being
not used to finding healthier alternatives, I had a big cheeseburger and fries.
I was SO sick. I now know that staying the course on this diet is the way for
me:-)

Stacy

Very good point! My old habits die hard!!! :) I am just learning.
I have been a diabetic for about a year and I guess I have to learn
the hard way! LOL!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been on a very low carb diet to keep my diabetes under control, and the<br />
last few days my MIL has been in the hospital so we had to eat out. Well, being<br />
not used to finding healthier alternatives, I had a big cheeseburger and fries.<br />
I was SO sick. I now know that staying the course on this diet is the way for<br />
me:-)</p>
<p>Stacy</p>
<p>Very good point! My old habits die hard!!! <img src='http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I am just learning.<br />
I have been a diabetic for about a year and I guess I have to learn<br />
the hard way! LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Neva Marjory</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25029</link>
		<author>Neva Marjory</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 06:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25029</guid>
		<description>Very good point! My old habits die hard!!! :) I am just learning.
I have been a diabetic for about a year and I guess I have to learn
the hard way! LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good point! My old habits die hard!!! <img src='http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I am just learning.<br />
I have been a diabetic for about a year and I guess I have to learn<br />
the hard way! LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Harley Shemika</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25027</link>
		<author>Harley Shemika</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25027</guid>
		<description>just my opinion, but i think the whole biscuit and the oj, made your sugar go
way up and then crash down really fast .. therefore the sickness....
i have not actually drank any oj but one time when i got real low since March
when i found out i was a diabetic.. 4 oz is a serving and i love oj too much to
tease myself...
better choice for mcdonalds would be an english muffin, sasuage,egg and
cheese.. that is exactly what i was given in the hospital..well not mcdonalds
but their food..
a serving of the sliced apples, no carmel.. and a glass of water or bottle
would be a good breakfast..
i hope you get to feeling better...
though the byetta does cause some nauesa(sp??) in some.. more like your GI
problems are from the metformin.. maybe you can decrease them or split them up
in takin them..i take 2 with supper and then 2 before i go to bed.. coz all 4 at
one time just about kill me off...
&lt;!--more--&gt;

make sure you talk to you doc or diabetes specialist.. they can help you out
so you are not sick all the time...
god bless ya
Ramona

test'; &#34;&#62;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just my opinion, but i think the whole biscuit and the oj, made your sugar go<br />
way up and then crash down really fast .. therefore the sickness&#8230;.<br />
i have not actually drank any oj but one time when i got real low since March<br />
when i found out i was a diabetic.. 4 oz is a serving and i love oj too much to<br />
tease myself&#8230;<br />
better choice for mcdonalds would be an english muffin, sasuage,egg and<br />
cheese.. that is exactly what i was given in the hospital..well not mcdonalds<br />
but their food..<br />
a serving of the sliced apples, no carmel.. and a glass of water or bottle<br />
would be a good breakfast..<br />
i hope you get to feeling better&#8230;<br />
though the byetta does cause some nauesa(sp??) in some.. more like your GI<br />
problems are from the metformin.. maybe you can decrease them or split them up<br />
in takin them..i take 2 with supper and then 2 before i go to bed.. coz all 4 at<br />
one time just about kill me off&#8230;<br />
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<p>make sure you talk to you doc or diabetes specialist.. they can help you out<br />
so you are not sick all the time&#8230;<br />
god bless ya<br />
Ramona</p>
<p>test&#8217;; &quot;&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Kraig Caren</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25026</link>
		<author>Kraig Caren</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-blog.wichy-girl.com/2007/06/21/sick/#comment-25026</guid>
		<description>On 7/21/07, estelene62 wrote:
&#60;&#60; I ate a bacon, egg and cheese biscuit, hash
brown and orange juice. I have been struggling with the nauseau
since I started Byetta in December of 2006. I guess
as long as I have the sick stomach, I will probably still have the
weight loss! LOL! Any suggestions? &#62;&#62;

A whole biscuit, hash browns, and oj? To me, that is a big breakfast.
While generally that is the kind of food I would never eat, if that was my
only option, I would have eat half the biscuit and half the juice. That is
really plenty of calories for most people for a meal. Our old habits die
hard.

A better option at McDonalds would have been their yogurt fruit parfait with
granola. Less calories, less fat, and the yogurt would soothe your stomach
&lt;!--more--&gt;
vs making you get sick.

You really do not want your weight loss to come about as the result of a
sick stomach, but taking the time to plan so you can make better food
choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 7/21/07, estelene62 wrote:<br />
&lt;&lt; I ate a bacon, egg and cheese biscuit, hash<br />
brown and orange juice. I have been struggling with the nauseau<br />
since I started Byetta in December of 2006. I guess<br />
as long as I have the sick stomach, I will probably still have the<br />
weight loss! LOL! Any suggestions? &gt;&gt;</p>
<p>A whole biscuit, hash browns, and oj? To me, that is a big breakfast.<br />
While generally that is the kind of food I would never eat, if that was my<br />
only option, I would have eat half the biscuit and half the juice. That is<br />
really plenty of calories for most people for a meal. Our old habits die<br />
hard.</p>
<p>A better option at McDonalds would have been their yogurt fruit parfait with<br />
granola. Less calories, less fat, and the yogurt would soothe your stomach<br />
<!--more--><br />
vs making you get sick.</p>
<p>You really do not want your weight loss to come about as the result of a<br />
sick stomach, but taking the time to plan so you can make better food<br />
choices.</p>
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