eating and levels
ok, check all of this out. I was useing my byetta pen all wrong, (so I was
told). I would take a shot early in the am, go back to bed and eat after usually
3 hours. then I would do the same with the other shot. Take it around 3 or 4 pm
and eat around 6 or 7. I had very little nausea this way and my blood sugars
were staying down. Since I was told that I was doing it wrong and that I needed
to eat immediately after I took my shot, I tryed that and couldn’t keep anything
down, was dehydrated and could only drink 3 to 4 drinks of water at a time. I
ask you then, it I was doing it all wrong, why did my A1c levels drop to an
awesome 5.3(which I am so happy about.) I went off the byetta now for almost 3
weeks. After I got this news, I started back on it last night and my bs had been
out of this world off of it.
Mickie
January 15th, 2006 at 9:57 am
Mickie, I find this very interesting and I’ll be looking forward to hear what
others say about it. What did the doctor say about it? I would think it was
doing what it was supposed to do the way you were originally taking it. Now you
have to deal with the nausea, etc. I’m tempted to try it your way. I was so
tired of being nauseated and tired, I just stopped taking it to see what I could
do on my own. Kathy, MN
ok, check all of this out. I was useing my byetta pen all wrong, (so I was
told). I would take a shot early in the am, go back to bed and eat after usually
3 hours. then I would do the same with the other shot. Take it around 3 or 4 pm
and eat around 6 or 7. I had very little nausea this way and my blood sugars
were staying down. Since I was told that I was doing it wrong and that I needed
to eat immediately after I took my shot, I tryed that and couldn’t keep anything
down, was dehydrated and could only drink 3 to 4 drinks of water at a time. I
ask you then, it I was doing it all wrong, why did my A1c levels drop to an
awesome 5.3(which I am so happy about.) I went off the byetta now for almost 3
weeks. After I got this news, I started back on it last night and my bs had been
out of this world off of it.
Mickie
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January 15th, 2006 at 1:38 pm
Hello Micki and Kathy, I was getting up at 4am,taking a glass of low
carb milk and going back to sleep then grazing the rest of the day. BG
numbers great.
My nausea and dizziness have finally gotten so much better that I take
my shot later at 7am, eat a very small amount,milk or half a scrambled
egg ,same for dinner shot. Hours after either shot I graze mini meals.
BG great,nausea much reduced.
I’m working slowly to eat the post shot food up to 15 minutes after the
shot,then will keep upping it to up to an hour past shot depending on
nausea.
Now officially you are supposed to eat a meal within 1 hour after taking
the shot,I guess to handle the BG for that meal.I’ve even read that if
you’re going to skip the meal to not take the shot.
For me, I get great BG help all day and evening after taking the shots
so I don’t think it is known that for some of us it is very effective to
do it with a small snack and grazing and much easier to reduce side
effects.
Aloha, Marge
January 15th, 2006 at 4:44 pm
Exactly kathy, that was the same reason that I stopped taking it and also
because of the cost. My Dr. said that byetta is recommended to take with
immediately following with the meal. However, he was really int erested when I
told him my findings. Now, I am taking byetta, and again my blood sugars are
great and I don’t have to be consumed with so much nausea, a little, but not
alot.
ok, check all of this out. I was useing my byetta pen all wrong, (so I was
told). I would take a shot early in the am, go back to bed and eat after usually
3 hours. then I would do the same with the other shot. Take it around 3 or 4 pm
and eat around 6 or 7. I had very little nausea this way and my blood sugars
were staying down. Since I was told that I was doing it wrong and that I needed
to eat immediately after I took my shot, I tryed that and couldn’t keep anything
down, was dehydrated and could only drink 3 to 4 drinks of water at a time. I
ask you then, it I was doing it all wrong, why did my A1c levels drop to an
awesome 5.3(which I am so happy about.) I went off the byetta now for almost 3
weeks. After I got this news, I started back on it last night and my bs had been
out of this world off of it.
Mickie
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January 16th, 2006 at 4:52 am
Mickie…the byetta was making your blood sugars lower, that’s what it does,
but if you don’t eat in the specified times, it doesn’t do it’s job as
efficiently. Of course you had very little nausea because you had nothing
in your stomach for the spit to work on. Actually you were just wasting the
doses you took. The best thing to do is try it like it’s suppose to be
done, take something for the nausea, deal with it and see if the nausea
lessens. If not, byetta may not be for you.
Demetria-Beth
ok, check all of this out. I was useing my byetta pen all wrong, (so I was
told). I would take a shot early in the am, go back to bed and eat after
usually 3 hours. then I would do the same with the other shot. Take it
around 3 or 4 pm and eat around 6 or 7. I had very little nausea this way
and my blood sugars were staying down. Since I was told that I was doing it
wrong and that I needed to eat immediately after I took my shot, I tryed
that and couldn’t keep anything down, was dehydrated and could only drink 3
to 4 drinks of water at a time. I ask you then, it I was doing it all
wrong, why did my A1c levels drop to an awesome 5.3(which I am so happy
about.) I went off the byetta now for almost 3 weeks. After I got this news,
I started back on it last night and my bs had been out of this world off of
it.
Mickie
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January 16th, 2006 at 9:09 am
I’m sorry, but why even TAKE the medicine then? It only lasts in your
system for 3 hours. It’s doing nothing for you. I mean this america, do it
like you want to do it. But it makes no sense to me to take a medicine and
then not follow the "rules" for using it. I think maybe you can’t have it
both ways. If you want to take the spit, then you are obviously going to
have nausea. If you don’t want to have the nausea, don’t take the spit. To
take it and then not eat within the hour is a waste of effort and money.
Demetria-Beth
Mickie, I find this very interesting and I’ll be looking forward to hear
what others say about it. What did the doctor say about it? I would think
it was doing what it was supposed to do the way you were originally taking
it. Now you have to deal with the nausea, etc. I’m tempted to try it your
way. I was so tired of being nauseated and tired, I just stopped taking it
to see what I could do on my own. Kathy, MN
ok, check all of this out. I was useing my byetta pen all wrong, (so I was
told). I would take a shot early in the am, go back to bed and eat after
usually 3 hours. then I would do the same with the other shot. Take it
around 3 or 4 pm and eat around 6 or 7. I had very little nausea this way
and my blood sugars were staying down. Since I was told that I was doing it
wrong and that I needed to eat immediately after I took my shot, I tryed
that and couldn’t keep anything down, was dehydrated and could only drink 3
to 4 drinks of water at a time. I ask you then, it I was doing it all wrong,
why did my A1c levels drop to an awesome 5.3(which I am so happy about.) I
went off the byetta now for almost 3 weeks. After I got this news, I started
back on it last night and my bs had been out of this world off of it.
Mickie
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January 17th, 2006 at 2:37 am
Mickie, I’m not sure how you achieved the great A1c, but congrats. I have to
caution you, though, that I don’t know if Byetta contributed much to it,
considering the description of the way you were using it. I don’t eat an
actual meal when I take mine, either, but I do eat a cracker or piece of cheese,
which is apparently all it needs to get it’s little lizard motor running and do
it’s thing. I tried eating a meal with the shot, and had the same results -
nausea, dehydration, and misery in general. I even altered the meals (no carbs,
some carbs, all carbs, small meals, full meals, etc.) and for me, more that a
bite or two is intolerable. This is not the only Byetta discussion group I
participate in, and the one constant is that there are no 2 identical cases -
everyone takes it differently, tolerates it under different conditions, and take
different accompanying medications. Everyone, however, is benefiting. Even
those who can’t continue to use it for one reason or
another have gained insight, and knowledge and support, and seem to be managing
the disease better. I encourage you to keep monitoring and improving. Good
luck!
-april
January 17th, 2006 at 7:25 am
I find your reply to be very offensive and I a m sure that I am not wasting your
time or your money. It happens to be mine and then why is it working for me
Demetria-Beth
Mickie, I find this very interesting and I’ll be looking forward to hear
what others say about it. What did the doctor say about it? I would think
it was doing what it was supposed to do the way you were originally taking
it. Now you have to deal with the nausea, etc. I’m tempted to try it your
way. I was so tired of being nauseated and tired, I just stopped taking it
to see what I could do on my own. Kathy, MN
ok, check all of this out. I was useing my byetta pen all wrong, (so I was
told). I would take a shot early in the am, go back to bed and eat after
usually 3 hours. then I would do the same with the other shot. Take it
around 3 or 4 pm and eat around 6 or 7. I had very little nausea this way
and my blood sugars were staying down. Since I was told that I was doing it
wrong and that I needed to eat immediately after I took my shot, I tryed
that and couldn’t keep anything down, was dehydrated and could only drink 3
to 4 drinks of water at a time. I ask you then, it I was doing it all wrong,
why did my A1c levels drop to an awesome 5.3(which I am so happy about.) I
went off the byetta now for almost 3 weeks. After I got this news, I started
back on it last night and my bs had been out of this world off of it.
Mickie
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January 17th, 2006 at 4:00 pm
Demetria, this is a friendly message board. I know the nausea is
tough, I live with it too, but please keep your messages positive.
If your A1C dropped to 5.3 while on Byetta it was working for you.
The 1 hour guideline is a common usage suggestion. The fact of the
matter is that the Byetta half life is about 4 Hours.
As it stands, all the reading I do points to Diabetes and the
treatment of the condition being fairly complex and dependent upon
individual response. The blood doesn’t lie. Be Well.
January 17th, 2006 at 8:19 pm
thank you for your support JP since that IS what I need. And I do believe that
it is upon individualty, the byetta works. You are right. The blood doesnt lie
and I check my bs every four hours. Again, thank you for the support.
Mickie
If your A1C dropped to 5.3 while on Byetta it was working for you.
The 1 hour guideline is a common usage suggestion. The fact of the
matter is that the Byetta half life is about 4 Hours.
As it stands, all the reading I do points to Diabetes and the
treatment of the condition being fairly complex and dependent upon
individual response. The blood doesn’t lie. Be Well.
January 18th, 2006 at 8:27 am
Mickie…
I in no way meant to be offensive, and I apologize if my post came across
that way.
Demetria-Beth
I find your reply to be very offensive and I a m sure that I am not wasting
your time or your money. It happens to be mine and then why is it working
for me
Demetria-Beth
Mickie, I find this very interesting and I’ll be looking forward to hear
what others say about it. What did the doctor say about it? I would think it
was doing what it was supposed to do the way you were originally taking it.
Now you have to deal with the nausea, etc. I’m tempted to try it your way. I
was so tired of being nauseated and tired, I just stopped taking it to see
what I could do on my own. Kathy, MN
ok, check all of this out. I was useing my byetta pen all wrong, (so I was
told). I would take a shot early in the am, go back to bed and eat after
usually 3 hours. then I would do the same with the other shot. Take it
around 3 or 4 pm and eat around 6 or 7. I had very little nausea this way
and my blood sugars were staying down. Since I was told that I was doing it
wrong and that I needed to eat immediately after I took my shot, I tryed
that and couldn’t keep anything down, was dehydrated and could only drink 3
to 4 drinks of water at a time. I ask you then, it I was doing it all wrong,
why did my A1c levels drop to an awesome 5.3(which I am so happy about.) I
went off the byetta now for almost 3 weeks. After I got this news, I started
back on it last night and my bs had been out of this world off of it.
Mickie
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January 18th, 2006 at 5:03 pm
As I said, I didn’t mean to come across as unfriendly or offensive and I
apologize if that was the case. If Mickie is pleased with the results, far
be it from me to say anything. As she pointed out. It’s not my time and
money. Please forgive.
Demetria-Beth
Demetria, this is a friendly message board. I know the nausea is tough, I
live with it too, but please keep your messages positive.
If your A1C dropped to 5.3 while on Byetta it was working for you.
The 1 hour guideline is a common usage suggestion. The fact of the matter is
that the Byetta half life is about 4 Hours.
As it stands, all the reading I do points to Diabetes and the treatment of
the condition being fairly complex and dependent upon individual response.
The blood doesn’t lie. Be Well.
January 19th, 2006 at 7:37 pm
Its ok Demetria, I shouldn’t have snapped at you. I am having alot of issues
even keeping the byetta as it is and it’s not your fault so I also apologize. I
value your opinions and I hope that you will keep giving them. Again, it’s
really not all your fault. I am having a hard time and maybe I took it wrong.
Mickie
Demetria-Beth
Demetria, this is a friendly message board. I know the nausea is tough, I
live with it too, but please keep your messages positive.
If your A1C dropped to 5.3 while on Byetta it was working for you.
The 1 hour guideline is a common usage suggestion. The fact of the matter is
that the Byetta half life is about 4 Hours.
As it stands, all the reading I do points to Diabetes and the treatment of
the condition being fairly complex and dependent upon individual response.
The blood doesn’t lie. Be Well.
January 20th, 2006 at 4:12 am
I have followed the discussion with great intrest. Byetta has 4
demonstrated effects in humans, at around a bg of 90 it prompts insulin
release, it inhibits release of glucose from the liver, it delays stomach
emptying to a degree and it prompts beta cells to make and store insulin
for the next meal.
The delayed release and/or reductions in number and amounts of injections
have 3 possible answers. First the usual half life of about 4 hours is
extended, usually it is broken down in the liver as soon as injected until
that half point. Second the setup for the next meal effect and the
limiting of liver glucose effect is in fact responsible for the delayed and
reduction effects.
Third and most intresting of all is the increase in beta cell mass shown in
animal research is happening in humans too. New cell mass would provide
more total insulin release and better sensitivity of new cells to glucose.
To that end are those who are getting those effects also tending to be
those who use byetta with lower a1c numbers to start then those at the end
of the oral med chain who were about to go insulin alone? If so those with
more cells to start would also show more cell mass increase sooner then
those starting with less. Also those who have made an effort to control
carbs and exercise are killing fewer of the new cells and are realizing the
new cell mass benefits.
One more possible factor, metformin for reasons to complicated to discuss
now keeps native glp-1, which byetta mimics, higher longer so there could
be a combined effect among those also using it. Are those with the effects
discussed also metformin users by any chance?
XB
IC|XC
January 20th, 2006 at 12:48 pm
I love your annalysis and no, I am not a metformin user
I have followed the discussion with great intrest. Byetta has 4
demonstrated effects in humans, at around a bg of 90 it prompts insulin
release, it inhibits release of glucose from the liver, it delays stomach
emptying to a degree and it prompts beta cells to make and store insulin
for the next meal.
The delayed release and/or reductions in number and amounts of injections
have 3 possible answers. First the usual half life of about 4 hours is
extended, usually it is broken down in the liver as soon as injected until
that half point. Second the setup for the next meal effect and the
limiting of liver glucose effect is in fact responsible for the delayed and
reduction effects.
Third and most intresting of all is the increase in beta cell mass shown in
animal research is happening in humans too. New cell mass would provide
more total insulin release and better sensitivity of new cells to glucose.
To that end are those who are getting those effects also tending to be
those who use byetta with lower a1c numbers to start then those at the end
of the oral med chain who were about to go insulin alone? If so those with
more cells to start would also show more cell mass increase sooner then
those starting with less. Also those who have made an effort to control
carbs and exercise are killing fewer of the new cells and are realizing the
new cell mass benefits.
One more possible factor, metformin for reasons to complicated to discuss
now keeps native glp-1, which byetta mimics, higher longer so there could
be a combined effect among those also using it. Are those with the effects
discussed also metformin users by any chance?
XB
IC|XC
January 20th, 2006 at 10:36 pm
Hello XB, Good analysis on the possible causes of Byetta extended
effects.
In my case, I’m a Metformin user, use exercise and under 100gms
carbs/day.
I had maxed out on Metformin and Starlix and after 13 years and a A1C of
7.6, I was headed for insulin.
However, I had refused Actos /Avandia and the longer acting Sulfs so I
guess if I had used them I might not of been maxed out yet.
Aloha, Marge
January 21st, 2006 at 5:14 am
Mickie…
I wonder what would happen if you DID take metformin? I know that in the
byetta literature it is supposed to be taken with a another diabetes med,
usually metformin. I wonder if it would make your bs even LOWER. Or if it
would somehow work to balance the two.
Demetria-Beth
I love your annalysis and no, I am not a metformin user
I have followed the discussion with great intrest. Byetta has 4 demonstrated
effects in humans, at around a bg of 90 it prompts insulin release, it
inhibits release of glucose from the liver, it delays stomach emptying to a
degree and it prompts beta cells to make and store insulin for the next
meal.
The delayed release and/or reductions in number and amounts of injections
have 3 possible answers. First the usual half life of about 4 hours is
extended, usually it is broken down in the liver as soon as injected until
that half point. Second the setup for the next meal effect and the limiting
of liver glucose effect is in fact responsible for the delayed and reduction
effects.
Third and most intresting of all is the increase in beta cell mass shown in
animal research is happening in humans too. New cell mass would provide more
total insulin release and better sensitivity of new cells to glucose.
To that end are those who are getting those effects also tending to be those
who use byetta with lower a1c numbers to start then those at the end of the
oral med chain who were about to go insulin alone? If so those with more
cells to start would also show more cell mass increase sooner then those
starting with less. Also those who have made an effort to control carbs and
exercise are killing fewer of the new cells and are realizing the new cell
mass benefits.
One more possible factor, metformin for reasons to complicated to discuss
now keeps native glp-1, which byetta mimics, higher longer so there could be
a combined effect among those also using it. Are those with the effects
discussed also metformin users by any chance?
XB
IC|XC
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January 21st, 2006 at 2:36 pm
Demetria
That’s a good idea, I will discuss that with my Dr. Thank you!
I wonder what would happen if you DID take metformin? I know that in the
byetta literature it is supposed to be taken with a another diabetes med,
usually metformin. I wonder if it would make your bs even LOWER. Or if it
would somehow work to balance the two.
Demetria-Beth
I love your annalysis and no, I am not a metformin user
I have followed the discussion with great intrest. Byetta has 4 demonstrated
effects in humans, at around a bg of 90 it prompts insulin release, it
inhibits release of glucose from the liver, it delays stomach emptying to a
degree and it prompts beta cells to make and store insulin for the next
meal.
The delayed release and/or reductions in number and amounts of injections
have 3 possible answers. First the usual half life of about 4 hours is
extended, usually it is broken down in the liver as soon as injected until
that half point. Second the setup for the next meal effect and the limiting
of liver glucose effect is in fact responsible for the delayed and reduction
effects.
Third and most intresting of all is the increase in beta cell mass shown in
animal research is happening in humans too. New cell mass would provide more
total insulin release and better sensitivity of new cells to glucose.
To that end are those who are getting those effects also tending to be those
who use byetta with lower a1c numbers to start then those at the end of the
oral med chain who were about to go insulin alone? If so those with more
cells to start would also show more cell mass increase sooner then those
starting with less. Also those who have made an effort to control carbs and
exercise are killing fewer of the new cells and are realizing the new cell
mass benefits.
One more possible factor, metformin for reasons to complicated to discuss
now keeps native glp-1, which byetta mimics, higher longer so there could be
a combined effect among those also using it. Are those with the effects
discussed also metformin users by any chance?
XB
IC|XC
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January 22nd, 2006 at 8:46 am
I found this interesting. I would love to see more research on this. I was
wondering if the increse in a
January 22nd, 2006 at 1:04 pm
I found this interesting. I would love to see more research on this. I was
wondering if there is an increase in their bodies ablity to use the insulin
because the fat cells are smaller due to the weight loss so the cells are
smaller. Just wondering.
Pam
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