Testing
When I was first diagnosed my testing supplies were processed
differently than they are now. If I remember correctly, even though
I had a prescription from my doctor I had to purchase them and turn
the receipt in and they partially reimbursed them. They were being
processed as "durable medical" so were subject to my deductible. My
prescription was written for 5x a day but they will still only allow
me 1 box at a time so I am running to the pharmacy about every 10
days it seems…
One day the pharmacist suggested I get a new prescription and we
would see if they would go thru as a prescription rather than the
way they had been going…they did. Now I only have to pay the 20%
and they are not subject to the deductible (which went from $250 to
$1000 in one year! Right now I have United Healthcare insurance.
My Endocrinologist and the educator who works with him are very
good. I am to test every morning and then alternate between the
other times. Basically, I am testing three times a day unless there
is a problem. For awhile I kekpt a pretty complete food/activity
diary but they thought that was "overkill" unless there was a
problem.
I am on several oral medications and Byetta and I am hoping to
discontinue some of the oral meds at some point. Since I have been
on the Byetta I have lost about 14 pounds. At first my "numbers"
did not drop but they are better now…with my random testing I
rarely have a reading over 130 and they are usually less. Before
Byetta my A1C had been close to 9. Three months ago it was 7.4 and
I am hoping it is down some more. I will find out the end of this
month.
I count carbs as it is easier than doing the calorie thing. If I am
more active I usually feel better but it is pretty hot in AZ in the
summer so I tend not to be quite so active.
I think all of us struggle with what to do and what to eat and
everything that goes along with it. I often think that if I didn’t
ever have to set foot in the kitchen…had a cook to take care of
the meals, etc. it would be so much easier! My DH is one of those
people who never gain and ounce, never sick, etc. Even though his
mother was diabetic (she died at 86) he has no understanding of what
it is like for me. She was diagnosed in her early 30’s and they
didn’t have the money for "special" foods so she pretty much did as
she pleased (and she, too, was rail thin)and adjusted her insulin.
It wasn’t until the last few years that she even had a glucose
meter. I really don’t know how or why she lived as long as she did
but it was a very bad example for my young niece who was diagnosed
at age 4!
September 30th, 2006 at 11:07 pm
Do you all test on your fingers? Im testing 3 times a day now, alternating
when I do it. If I had to do it on my fingers , I would give up. I have the
free style and test on my arms and thighs. I have Raynauds syndrome so my
fingers are rather sensitive. I cant remember the last time I changed my lancet
(better do it while Im thinking of it today) , but it never hurts. Ev
October 2nd, 2006 at 12:49 am
Just keep in my that alternate site testing is not as accurate as testing
from a finger.
Demetria-Beth
_____
Do you all test on your fingers? Im testing 3 times a day now, alternating
when I do it. If I had to do it on my fingers , I would give up. I have the
free style and test on my arms and thighs. I have Raynauds syndrome so my
fingers are rather sensitive. I cant remember the last time I changed my
lancet
(better do it while Im thinking of it today) , but it never hurts. Ev
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October 2nd, 2006 at 7:55 am
Hi all, I usually alternate finges on my left hand but I am wondering if I
should also try to
test on my right as well. Don’t know if I’d be co-ordinated to do that
though.
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Laura
October 2nd, 2006 at 12:47 pm
Hi Ev,
I have the Freestyle Flash and LOVE IT! With the advantages of the arm/leg
testing, why anyone would want to test on their fingers is beyond me. Doing
that HURTS:) I am a wimp regarding pain and hated, when in the hospital, they
tested on my fingers instead of my arms.
Melodie
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October 2nd, 2006 at 4:31 pm
In Feb. I had a surgery and they tested my sugar levels and gosh did those
testings
hurt. The nurses told me the needles were the cheapest ones to use so they
were not
even sharp ouch!
I have the Freestyle Flash and LOVE IT! With the advantages of the arm/leg
testing, why anyone would want to test on their fingers is beyond me. Doing that
HURTS:) I am a wimp regarding pain and hated, when in the hospital, they tested
on my fingers instead of my arms.
Melodie
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Laura
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:25 pm
Melodie, Thats the tiny free style isnt it? Does it use smaller strips or the
same as the regular. Ive been thinking of getting one of those even if I have
to buy it just so I can carry it with me. I have the regular sized one and I
dont know what I would do if they went out of business. It takes the tiniest
drop of blood and it really doesn’t hurt. I had another brand for a while
before freestyle and it did go off the market. I went into a big panic thinking
I
would have to stick my fingers again. Ive compared testings on my fingers and
forearms and thighs and there really wasn’t any difference, y et none of the
children I know that have diabetes are able to use free style. I wonder why. Ev
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:56 am
let me know when you come on line and I’ll ad you to my satinandlace name and
you can follow me all night ok
Melodie, Thats the tiny free style isnt it? Does it use smaller strips or the
same as the regular. Ive been thinking of getting one of those even if I have
to buy it just so I can carry it with me. I have the regular sized one and I
dont know what I would do if they went out of business. It takes the tiniest
drop of blood and it really doesn’t hurt. I had another brand for a while
before freestyle and it did go off the market. I went into a big panic
thinking I
would have to stick my fingers again. Ive compared testings on my fingers and
forearms and thighs and there really wasn’t any difference, y et none of the
children I know that have diabetes are able to use free style. I wonder why.
Ev
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October 3rd, 2006 at 2:35 pm
Hi Ev,
I don’t know why the kids wouldn’t be able to use the Freestyle. I believe
there are a couple of meters that allow testing on the forearm besides
Freestyle.
It is the tiny freestyle and it uses the regular strips. I ended up with
three Freestyle meters, the Flash I carry with me, but I also keep one at work
and one at home in case I lose the Flash, which because of its size, I have
done.
Melodie
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October 4th, 2006 at 12:12 am
Melodie, How did you end up with three meters? I dont know how much they
cost if I have to buy one but I t hink it would be worth it because the regular
one is kind of big to cart aro und. Ev
**************************************
October 5th, 2006 at 3:11 am
I’ve spoken with my doctor and my diabetic educator and they have assured me
that under my circumstances, alternative site testing is a viable option.
That’s one of the reasons I test both before and after a meal so I can see
exactly how the meal affected me rather than just guess based on the
post-meal reading. The following is from the Food & Drug Administration:
Note on Alternative Site Testing:
Some blood glucose meters can use blood samples from the upper arm, forearm,
base of the thumb, or thigh.
Using alternative sites gives you more options. But be aware that blood
glucose levels from these sites may not always be as accurate as readings
from the fingertips. Alternative site results differ from fingertip results
when glucose levels are changing rapidly such as after a meal, after taking
insulin, during exercise, or when you are ill or under stress.
Use blood from a fingertip rather than an alternative site if:
. you think your blood glucose is low,
. you don’t regularly have symptoms when your blood glucose is low, or
. how you feel doesn’t match the results from the alternative site.
Caution: Not all meters can use blood from alternative sites, and not all
alternative sites are the same. Only test from sites that are identified in
the instructions. Alternative site testing is not for everyone. Talk with
your doctor before you test from a site other than your fingertip.
For more information on glucose testing visit:
> Just keep in mind that alternate site testing is not as accurate as
> testing from a finger.
October 5th, 2006 at 7:29 am
Melodie, that’s the same meter I’ve got and I love mine, too. I started
with an Accu-Chek and then went to the original Freestyle. I prefer the
Flash over all of them and I especially like how it lights up the testing
area so you can see in low-light conditions. I agree about the finger
testing. Even with the lancet set on 1, it hurts way too much if I do my
finger but I only feel it on my forearm if I get lazy and don’t change the
lancet on a regular basis or accidentally change the setting to a 4 as I’m
taking it out of the case.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:26 pm
I have the Freestyle Flash, too. One think I found out though - there is as
much as 20 points difference if I test in the arm vs the finger. It is
higher in the arm.
October 5th, 2006 at 8:23 pm
Ev, Melodie probably already answered (just haven’t read that far though my
email) but all models of FreeStyle meters use the same strips. One reason I
like the Flash is that it fits in the palm of my hand and is very discrete
if I need to test in public. The Freedom model is the same size but has a
larger numeric display and does not have the LED light at the end for
testing in dark places. I got mine for after leaving my original FreeStyle
on an airplane. I called them up and they mailed me this one at no cost.
October 6th, 2006 at 12:17 pm
Hi…
For what it is worth, I test one side of the fingers on my left hand, then
one side on all the fingers of the right hand, then i go back and do the
other side of my left hand and then the other side of my right, so i have
16 surfaces to test. I don’t test on my thumbs. But if you use the sides
of the finger instead of the pad of the finger (where the fingerprints are)
then it doesn’t hurt as bad.
Demetria-Beth
_____
Hi all, I usually alternate finges on my left hand but I am wondering if I
should also try to
test on my right as well. Don’t know if I’d be co-ordinated to do that
though.
evelynmma@aol. <mailto:evelynmma%40aol.com> com wrote:
Do you all test on your fingers? Im testing 3 times a day now, alternating
when I do it. If I had to do it on my fingers , I would give up. I have the
free style and test on my arms and thighs. I have Raynauds syndrome so my
fingers are rather sensitive. I cant remember the last time I changed my
lancet
(better do it while Im thinking of it today) , but it never hurts. Ev
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Laura
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October 6th, 2006 at 4:35 pm
Plus, the lancet devices aren’t adjustable, so they go to one depth—DEEP!
Demetria-Beth
_____
In Feb. I had a surgery and they tested my sugar levels and gosh did those
testings
hurt. The nurses told me the needles were the cheapest ones to use so they
were not
even sharp ouch!
I have the Freestyle Flash and LOVE IT! With the advantages of the arm/leg
testing, why anyone would want to test on their fingers is beyond me. Doing
that HURTS:) I am a wimp regarding pain and hated, when in the hospital,
they tested on my fingers instead of my arms.
Melodie
evelynmma@aol. <mailto:evelynmma%40aol.com> com wrote:
Do you all test on your fingers? Im testing 3 times a day now, alternating
when I do it. If I had to do it on my fingers , I would give up. I have the
free style and test on my arms and thighs. I have Raynauds syndrome so my
fingers are rather sensitive. I cant remember the last time I changed my
lancet
(better do it while Im thinking of it today) , but it never hurts. Ev
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Laura
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October 7th, 2006 at 6:46 am
Like diabetes, it must be different for everyone. I’m usually only about 5
points different between finger and forearm and the finger is usually higher
for me.
October 7th, 2006 at 11:04 am
Ev, my insurance paid the full price for my original Accu-Chek meter. I
received the FreeStyle that you have from my diabetic educator and the
FreeStyle Flash I use now was sent to me by the manufacturer at no cost
after I left my other FreeStyle on an airplane. I haven’t paid for any of
them but I’ve certainly paid for the test strips! That’s definitely where
they get you. Since you need the strip designed for the FreeStyle meters,
you can’t use just any strip so my insurance co-pay is at the brand name
price.
October 9th, 2006 at 9:04 am
Ev,
Talk to your Dr. A lot of times they have meters to give away for free.
The Test strips is where the company’s make their money, not from the
meters, so they give them to dr.s to give to their patients.
Demetria-Beth
_____
Melodie, How did you end up with three meters? I dont know how much they
cost if I have to buy one but I t hink it would be worth it because the
regular
one is kind of big to cart aro und. Ev
**************************************
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October 9th, 2006 at 1:22 pm
Great! It’s good that you have the option of where you can test. I also
have to test before and after meals, it’s a hassle sometimes isn’t it? But,
i guess it’s better than the alternative of our diabetes getting out of
control.
Demetria-Beth
_____
I’ve spoken with my doctor and my diabetic educator and they have assured me
that under my circumstances, alternative site testing is a viable option.
That’s one of the reasons I test both before and after a meal so I can see
exactly how the meal affected me rather than just guess based on the
post-meal reading. The following is from the Food & Drug Administration:
Note on Alternative Site Testing:
Some blood glucose meters can use blood samples from the upper arm, forearm,
base of the thumb, or thigh.
Using alternative sites gives you more options. But be aware that blood
glucose levels from these sites may not always be as accurate as readings
from the fingertips. Alternative site results differ from fingertip results
when glucose levels are changing rapidly such as after a meal, after taking
insulin, during exercise, or when you are ill or under stress.
Use blood from a fingertip rather than an alternative site if:
. you think your blood glucose is low,
. you don’t regularly have symptoms when your blood glucose is low, or
. how you feel doesn’t match the results from the alternative site.
Caution: Not all meters can use blood from alternative sites, and not all
alternative sites are the same. Only test from sites that are identified in
the instructions. Alternative site testing is not for everyone. Talk with
your doctor before you test from a site other than your fingertip.
For more information on glucose testing visit:
> Just keep in mind that alternate site testing is not as accurate as
> testing from a finger.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:14 pm
The meters are so cheap today. I got mine at Wal-Mart, all less then $40 each.
Two I bought my self and the other one, insurance paid for.
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October 11th, 2006 at 3:08 am
Yeah. I agree. I have one spot on my forearm that there has to be a nerve
there or something and every once in awhile, I forget. When I hit that spot, it
doesn’t matter what the lancet levet is–that sucker HURTS!
But when they get those fingers—yuck!
October 11th, 2006 at 11:44 am
Hi. I have had a difference in the testing area as well but not as much as 20.
Only by a couple of points. If I have to choose between having it a few points
higher or the pain, higher WINS!
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October 11th, 2006 at 6:53 pm
On 4/4/07, chris wrote:
<< Hi. I have had a difference in the testing area as well but not as much
as 20. Only by a couple of points. If I have to choose between having it a
few points higher or the pain, higher WINS! >>
Last night I checked it in my arm and it was 122. Then I checked in in my
finger and it was 104. I just wonder which number is ‘correct’?
October 11th, 2006 at 11:00 pm
Ev,
Talk to your Dr. A lot of times they have meters to give away for free.
The Test strips is where the company’s make their money, not from the
meters, so they give them to dr.s to give to their patients.
Demetria-Beth
_____
Melodie, How did you end up with three meters? I dont know how much they
cost if I have to buy one but I t hink it would be worth it because the
regular
one is kind of big to cart aro und. Ev
**************************************
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October 12th, 2006 at 4:56 am
The cost of strips sucks! I found out I was Diabetic on March 25, 2001 and for
100 Freestyle strips, the cost was right at $50. Now, the same strips and
amount is $100. With all the talk in the news about diabetes on the rise, seems
companies are "cashing" in on the health crisis. The meters have gone down or
stayed the same (or as Michael indicates are FREE) because like cell phones, the
phone or the meter isn’t where they make the money–the airtime or the strips
is.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:50 am
Hi…
For what it is worth, I test one side of the fingers on my left hand, then
one side on all the fingers of the right hand, then i go back and do the
other side of my left hand and then the other side of my right, so i have
16 surfaces to test. I don’t test on my thumbs. But if you use the sides
of the finger instead of the pad of the finger (where the fingerprints are)
then it doesn’t hurt as bad.
Demetria-Beth
_____
Hi all, I usually alternate finges on my left hand but I am wondering if I
should also try to
test on my right as well. Don’t know if I’d be co-ordinated to do that
though.
evelynmma@aol. <mailto:evelynmma%40aol.com> com wrote:
Do you all test on your fingers? Im testing 3 times a day now, alternating
when I do it. If I had to do it on my fingers , I would give up. I have the
free style and test on my arms and thighs. I have Raynauds syndrome so my
fingers are rather sensitive. I cant remember the last time I changed my
lancet
(better do it while Im thinking of it today) , but it never hurts. Ev
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Laura
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April 15th, 2007 at 9:40 am
My doctor has me testing twice a day, but not at all after meals. On Mon., Wed.,
and Friday I test fasting and before dinner. On Tues., Thurs., and Sat. I test
before lunch and before bed. No testing on Sunday.
It seems kind of weird that he doesn’t want me to test after any meals. I don’t
want to do extra testing because at each appointment he takes my meter and
downloads all of my results to review them. I have been "sticking" (haha)
 to the testing schedule he gave me.
They did my bloodwork last time I was there, but didn’t tell me what my A1C
was. I think I will call them to find out. I am curious about it.
Cindy
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How do you get medicare at 59? I am the same age by the way. Luckily my
nsurance pays for it. I have Tricare and have not had a problem. Thank
oodness.
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nsurance pays for it. I have Tricare and have not had a problem. Thank
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I was just wondering if anyone here has a webpage or can reccomend one that
eals with the best foods to eat and the ones to avoid. I have a general idea,
ut not exactly sure if it’s anything close to the Atkin’s Diet. My Dr. hasn’t
eally told me much about what I am dealing with here.
I really like fruit and miss it a lot on that particular diet. So was
ondering if the fruits I bought today were ok. I got Kiwi (one of my fav’s)
pricots, plums and white peaches. I want to watch what I eat, but can’t do
he whole diabetic diet at this point, I don’t think.
Would appreciate any help that you all can offer.
Thanks so much,
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egarding your question of ‘if the fruits you bought were ok’
purchased a book found at most any bookstore, even a Walmart is likely to
arry it, and of course Amazon if you’re someone that prefers purchasing online.
he cost was very low in my opinion for what it’s done to help me, U.S $7.99.
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ound on a diabetes newsgroup, addresses some of the folk who have had this
ide effect.
"I also take Byetta. The only side effect that I suffered, other than the
light nausea/decrease in appetite the first 6 months (and a subsequent 18
ound weight loss) was an allergic reaction to the preservatives in the
edicine. It created a welt similar to a very large hornet sting every
ime I injected it, and it itched like the dickens! My endo contacted the
ompany, who sent a representative down to counsel. It appears that about
in 100 people have that reaction, and the simplest solution is longer
eedles. The reaction is only to the outer layer of skin, not inside, so
epositing the medicine further inside meant a smaller reaction. It still
tches slightly after an injection, but I no longer feel the need to rip my
kin apart, and the small welt goes away long before the next time I
nject. The needles weren’t that much longer (yay). I have had mixed
eelings about taking it."
XB
IC|XC
ello my name is Tina,
I was diagnosed in 2/2002. I’ve been on Metformin (1000 mg) and Byetta
ince 8/2005. In the past I had always just taken my Byetta right before
ating, however recently my Dr. asked me to have 15-30 min from
njection time before I eat. So far for me this seems to work better
han taking it right before. Recently I thought about trying another med
nstead of the Byetta as I still have morning highs sometimes but no go
s I can’t have sulfa, :o/. So I’m still with Byetta and just started to
ake it 15 min before my meals. I’m also glad I’ve not had the nausea,
hich I was sure I would get as riding as a passenger in the car even
akes me sick,lol. Looking forward to sharing ideas and experiences.
Tina D.
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hank you
ina Fermin
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I also started on a drug called Lyrica…which was suggested to me by my
lose friend Angela who said it really helped her with her Fibro.
I still have a UTI and have to take another round of antibiotics. I am
appy that I no longer have to take 4 different meds for my diabetes. Now I
nly have to take two. The Lyrica and Lizard Spit. The Metformin and
lucatrol did not help very much. I also have a nasty fungus on my foot
nd back… It sucks. My doc asked me if I’d been scratching my back with my
eet LOL
Hope you all are doing great…it’s nice here tonight and we had some rain
ere in Indiana…and the lighting bugs are out:) Summer is here!!!
Hugs N’ Lizard Luv~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Melissa
Melissa~
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or now, I am going off insulin, and going one one pill once a day. It is a
ew medication called Januvia. And in Septemeber, I am going to be in a
iabetes study for a new drug that you inject.
I am happy that I no longer have to take 4 different meds for my diabetes.
ow I only have to take two. The Lyrica and Lizard Spit. The Metformin and
lucatrol did not help very much.
Melissa~
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Melissa, forgive my ignorance but I’m confused by what you stated. Are you
taking Januvia, Byetta (Lizard Spit) or both? I would assume that the
September study is the new exenatide LAR. If you find that Januvia works
well for you, why change medication again? Seems by discontinuing the
metformin and glucatrol, it would be harder for your body to adjust to
further changes so soon.
For now, I am going off insulin, and going one one pill once a day. It is a
new medication called Januvia. And in Septemeber, I am going to be in a
diabetes study for a new drug that you inject.
I am happy that I no longer have to take 4 different meds for my diabetes.
Now I only have to take two. The Lyrica and Lizard Spit. The Metformin and
Glucatrol did not help very much.
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I take now Byetta and Januvia now. It is to see if it will work better for
me than GlucXL and Metformin.
What is LAR?
Melissa~
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Exenetide LAR is the once-a-week version of Byetta that is currently in
testing. Just surprised you would be on both of these drugs together since
they were designed to work with other oral meds such as metformin.
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It is not that once a week version of Byetta. Do you take that?
Melissa
Melissa~
——-Original Message——-
No, that one hasn’t been released yet. I’m on the 10mcg Byetta along with
metformin and glyburide. Been on the spit since March and doing very well
with it. Don’t think I’d want to try to long acting version. Only had
minimal nausea with Byetta, nothing like when I started metformin, but since
have a regime that works for me and I don’t mind the twice-daily
injections, I see no reason to change unless my current meds no longer work
for me.
> It is not that once a week version of Byetta. Do you take that?
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April 22nd, 2007 at 12:32 pm
Gentle suggestion, please. It appears that you are on digest mode and when
you reply to messages we are getting the entire digest. This is a burden to
those getting individual e-mails, and also it will make the next digest huge
and make it difficult to find new posts. Could you just cut and paste the
information you are responding to?
TIA.