Starting the 10 pen tomorrow
HI
What am i to expect when i start the 10 pen. I am doing really good
with the 5 for the month. But it is time to move on.
Am i not going to be hungry?
Am i going to be sick to my stomach?
Any other signs that i need to look for?
I see the dietian on Thurday the 27th.
Thanks
Pat
March 11th, 2004 at 10:14 am
Hi Pat,
When I started the 10 pen I had an immediate drop in BG (yeaaaaaaaaaaa!). I
also saw my appetite reduce and in the past week or so it has reduced
dramatically. I did not have nausea or vomiting. I do, however, notice that my
ability to eat is more restricted. On the 5 pen I had virtually no eating
restrictions and my BG was still high.
I have found that Rebecca’s suggestion regarding the pen use is good. Inject,
then after holding it in (I count 20) I dial it back to the point it clicks in
place before the next delivery. Then I remove it and there no flood of spit
down the pen. I know John watches the markings on the pen. I go by the "feel"
of the plunger and the feel of the pen action plus having no liquid on the end
when I remove the needle.
Good fortune to you!
Marsha
What am i to expect when i start the 10 pen. I am doing really good
with the 5 for the month. But it is time to move on.
Am i not going to be hungry?
Am i going to be sick to my stomach?
Any other signs that i need to look for?
March 11th, 2004 at 4:44 pm
Hi Marsha
Thanks so much for the information. I do that now with the 5 pen. I have
already primed the 10 pen so that i can start first thing in the morning. I was
hoping that i would start it on the days that i am off from work so that if i
do have some side effects i am home.
The 5 has dropped my sugars within the guide lines that it should be. I do
have meal times when after two hours its up a little plus i take 4 500mg of
metformin at night after dinner.
What do you mean more restricted eating?
March 11th, 2004 at 11:08 pm
Hi Pat,
When I was using the 5 pen I was still able to eat quite a bit if I really had a
mind to and I had to intentionally work at keeping my calories very low to lose
weight. I also took hoodia regularly along with the spit to deal with the
hunger from the insulin resistance.
Since the 10 pen I have been able to mostly skip the hoodia, although some days
I still get hungry inappropriately and use it. However, over the time I have
been using it, I have found that I eat less and less because it is just not
possible to eat more. Hence, more restricted eating.
The overly full feeling for the last 24 hours is a good example of that. I hope
that this is not what it is going to be like from here on out. But if it is, I
would rather than than the dangerously high BG levels. As to what foods I do
eat, I still eat what I ate before - meat, fish, poultry, low carb veggies, low
carb fruits. I can tolerate fat quite well and do fine with salads, although
now a big salad for me is the Wendy’s side salad with no dressing. :^)
Cheers!
Marsha
March 12th, 2004 at 5:38 am
Hi Marsha
Thanks for letting me know what it meant. I have lost about 17 lbs already
by watching what i am eating.
But there are days that i can eat all the bad stuff even after eating. Its
probably stress eating. But i do watch most of what i am eating. I no longer
do any food shopping. Myh daughter knows what i can and cannot eat.
But i do work in a bakery and i do try and restrict myself but they are days
it doesnt work.
March 12th, 2004 at 4:19 pm
Hi Pat,
My mother had a donut shop for as long as I could remember. I grew up around
sweets. When I was just a little kid she told me to eat all I wanted and I did
- and was sick for three days. It sort of cured me from wanting sweets. I like
sugar, just not baked goods.
I do miss some things sometimes - brownies and stuff, but not enough to actually
eat them and blow what I have going for me now. Brownie - left hand. Rest of
life - right hand. No comparison.
Cheers!
Marsha
March 12th, 2004 at 10:50 pm
Hi Marsha
I am learning that i cant have it both ways. That is why i struggle with it
all the time. And the stress is so high from it all.
i know that the endo said that it would be better if we all (household)
follow the eating pattern. But my kids arent trying to follow it. My 19 year
old
is changing her ways. But the 12 year old isnt to much. I have cut back alot
on buying the sweets to one for the 12 year and one for the 13 year a week
and its got to last the whole week or they dont get any more for that week.
With that it lessens the junk in the house.
March 13th, 2004 at 12:55 am
Pat,
We cook what we cook. We may modify when the kids come over, but essentially,
we cook what we cook. The girls know we keep things here for them like cereal
and pretzyls and that sort of stuff in their pantry. But when they come for
dinner they get salad, green beans, thin sliced ham, low carb popovers hot from
the oven, and for dessert there is cheese and strawberries, sometimes with
whipped cream.
Granted, they don’t live with us anymore, but we have things they may not have
at home - tuna stake rolled in sesame seeds and cooked in dark sesame oil,
served with a wasabi sauce on a bed of sticky rice (for them) and as much soy
sauce as they desire. Or grilled salmon with dill with cottage cheese to dip
carrots and celery in served with raita sauce to dip the fish in. Kids don’t
have to have junk food. Oh, they get a little here, but we make eating an
adventure. Let’s have jalaenpo scallops tonight!
Your older kids should be able to make a sandwich or two if they don’t like the
main meals. You set the standards for eating and let htem decide what of the
offered fare theyl’ll eat,. Dont’ work - they will adapt.
I wonder why we stress. I stress … sometimes. Most of the time I don’t. It
is what it is (phrase stolen from a wise Irish lass I know). and stressing will
only give us worry lines Cook what you cook. They are old enough to eat or not
and fen for themselves. Make enough good food and they will come around.
Cheers!
Marsha
I am learning that i cant have it both ways. That is why i struggle with it
all the time. And the stress is so high from it all.
March 13th, 2004 at 11:39 am
you will learn that there are a lot of foods lizards
don’t like. I like tomatoes. lizards don’t. if i eat
any kind of food with tomatos or tomato sauce, i will
throw up. there are several things like that. and you
will find that some things will affect you worses than
others
March 14th, 2004 at 7:41 am
Pat, my stress eating is gone. While my appetite has increased a little
since I started the spit, it’s nowhere near what it was before.
> But there are days that i can eat all the bad stuff even after
> eating. Its
March 14th, 2004 at 11:59 am
Pat, I was prepared tripping the nausea fantastic, but that didn’t
happen. Just a slight nauseous feeling that went away. No problem. I was
sleepy for about two weeks, but welcomed the excuse to rest. LOL
You may be less hungry. And things may be better bg wise. One day at a
time - one spit dose at a time.
Hugs,
March 14th, 2004 at 5:49 pm
Marsha and to all that responded.
If my kids dont eat what we cook. Then they do have to fend for them selves.
But they are allow one snack food a week. And that is it.
I will be taking the 10 in the next hour or so. So i will see what happens.
I just hope to stay awake to do some cleaning since it is my day off.
Will let you all know how it went.
March 14th, 2004 at 7:55 pm
I can eat pretty much anything I want, just a lot less of it. I do notice that
I seem to require fat in my diet to
I have more problems digesting beef than I do chicken or poultry. Fortunately,
I am a non-discriminating meat eater.
do well with spit. I do okay with salads, but not too much at one time.
Avocados seem to be a little overwhelming if I have too much at any one time -
1/2 is too much and 1/4 is difficult to store if it is left over (not
impossible, just more difficult). My taste buds don’t like screaming hot any
more. I’ve been fortunate my food options have not been particularly limited
since they were limited to begin with (no grains, no starches).
Marsha
March 17th, 2004 at 3:15 am
Hi Pat,
I just took my fourth dose today on the 10 pen. I was ready for all of it.
Nausea, vomiting, you name it. To my delight, there was not much of a
noticeable change from the 5 dose. The first dose made me a "little queasy"
that lasted only 20 min. After that initial feeling, it has been free
sailing. I was prepared with ginger capsules for nausea, just in case. If
you tolerated the 5 dose well, you will probably do well with the 10.
Everyone is different. One thing is certain, my numbers are coming down
March 17th, 2004 at 11:12 pm
Hi Elaine
It was bad this morning. I just dont feel hungry yet. But i ate a little
lunch and now i am preparing dinner.
March 26th, 2004 at 9:15 am
Elaine
I am doing better today. But it still makes me not hungry. So i eat a small
breakfast, small lunch then i try a eat a little bigger dinner due to the
fact that i can t eat after dinner because it really spikes my sugar in the
morning.