question about lantus dose
hope you got my intro. anyone think i should lower my lantus dose before the
day before i start the byetta? i take the lantus at 5 pm and tend to wake
with fairly stable bg’s. it’s the 5 pm ones that are high! and honestly
that’s cause i eat all day long. hubby works nights so i am alone 5 nights
and mornings a week. if i get a low during the day i can handle it but don’t
know about during the night.
i think i’d be better off running a bit higher till i know how the byetta
will affect my levels.
jodi
February 24th, 2004 at 3:42 am
Jodi, I was on a combined total of 60 units of Lantus and Humalog before
the lizard. I’m now off the Lantus completely, and only use the Humalog
when needed, which is looking at once a week, and at very low doses, 2-3
units.
Test, test, test. That’s the only way you can know what you’re bg is doing.
February 24th, 2004 at 6:51 am
that is so awesome! so if i am understanding you correctly, you took the
shot during the day and then dropped to where you never took an evening
lantus dose? i assume most everyone takes the lantus in the evening.
i would love to be able to just take the byetta! i know that lantus keeps me
from losing weight. i used to take the glucophage along with avandia but the
avandia made me retain water.
jodi
For what it is worth. The day I began Byetta I was on 140 units of Lantus.
The Dr said to cut in half. I took the 5mcg shot in the office. When I
arrived
home I was 94. Called Dr. said "Don’t take any more insulin." I haven’t
taken a
shot since that day 11 months ago. Be prepared. John
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February 24th, 2004 at 3:55 pm
I have only taken insulin once, had a severe allergic reaction to it and never
took it again. I take 1500 mg of metformin spaced through the day (sometimes
and additional 500 if necessary at night) and 10 mcg of byetta.
I have had a BG of 88 one day (I was delighted) but am running more in the 115
range most all the time now. I am usually a bit higher in the morning due to
dawn effect.
March 22nd I was still fighting BG’s of 200+.
Byetta got me started down, then metformin helped a bit more and now I’m on the
10 mcg byetta and things are really looking up.
Inexplicably, I gained four pounds. I wonder what THAT is about?! Well, it
will drop off as I am still eating very little. Odd.
Cheers!
Marsha
February 25th, 2004 at 5:15 pm
i seldom have to use humalog for meals since i stick to lower carb foods. i
really should use it at night to get those numbers down but they correct
themselves by morning so that’s why i don’t and also why i am concerned
about the second daily shot of spit.
jodi
I used to use lantus, before being on the pump. Now I use novolog as my
only insulin as the pump infuses it. My background or basal insulin
amount
hasn’t changed since being on byetta - that’s what lantus would be - the
background or basal insulin. What has changed, for me, is the meal
insulin. If I’m
reasonably careful with my meal carb counts, I use no meal insulin for
the
meals I use the byetta. That means that my total insulin use is down by
about
a third, but there has been no change in my background or basal (like
lantus)
insulin use as of 6.5 weeks on byetta, 3 on the 5 mcg and 3.5 on the 10
mcg.
My morning number, however, has improved dramatically - going from 130 or
above to generally around 110 or below, which for me is a great
improvement. I
even had a fasting of 95 this week.
Stacey
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February 26th, 2004 at 4:27 am
hi jodi and welcome,
i can honestly say that i have probably had the worst
time of anyone here with the byetta. constant nausea
and vomiting for 5 months. BUT, and it is a big but,
my overall condition has improved so much that i am
not willing to stop taking the byetta. and i have
decided that it may be lows in the am that are
causeing some of my problems. when i started, i
weighed 230 lbs, my glucose ran in the 600’s despite
glucovance 1500 mg and lantus 60 u. i have been on
huge amounts of insulin (as muc as 300u at a time) and
every kind of insulin as well as massive amounts of
most of the pills for diabetes and i couldn’t get my
numbers to budge. my HgA1c was 15.6. now after 4
months on the byetta, i have dropped my HgA1c to 8.4,
my weight to 188, i have one more week of glucovance
500mg and then i am coming off of that, and i am on
levemir 10u (a new insulin). Most people don’t have
the kind of nausea and vomiting i have had adn not
nearly so long. i do feel full most of the time and am
not hungry.
i almost forgot the most important part. my blood
sugars. after literally walking around for 15 years
with a blood sugar of 600+ right now on glucophage 500
and levemir 10u my fasting sugars are below 130 and my
post meal sugars are 103ish. i do not test regularly
because i don’t have a meter at present(financial
probs) but i had it tested at a diabetic thing on
monday AFTER eating a forbidden piece of birthday cake
and a couple of bites of easter candy and my blood
sugar was 127!!!
so hang in there, the nausea if you have it ususally
doesn’t last long for most people unless you overeat
or eat something lizards don’t like. be careful though
because you do begin to crave mealworms and crickets
after a while
welcome and good luck
annie
February 26th, 2004 at 9:39 pm
jody as for the needles, my levemir is a pen and i use
the same box of needles for both
February 26th, 2004 at 11:20 pm
this stuff sounds amazing. 4 months and you are like a new person!
jodi
when i started, i
weighed 230 lbs, my glucose ran in the 600’s despite
glucovance 1500 mg and lantus 60 u. i have been on
huge amounts of insulin (as muc as 300u at a time) and
every kind of insulin as well as massive amounts of
most of the pills for diabetes and i couldn’t get my
numbers to budge. my HgA1c was 15.6. now after 4
months on the byetta, i have dropped my HgA1c to 8.4,
my weight to 188, i have one more week of glucovance
500mg and then i am coming off of that, and i am on
levemir 10u (a new insulin). Most people don’t have
the kind of nausea and vomiting i have had adn not
nearly so long. i do feel full most of the time and am
not hungry.
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February 29th, 2004 at 3:49 pm
honestly, i couldn’t remember what the needles i had looked like so i got a
new box. insurance pays 100% for all supplies and "durable medical
equipment".
jodi
jody as for the needles, my levemir is a pen and i use
the same box of needles for both
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March 5th, 2004 at 11:06 pm
i am convinced that as my sugars stabilze the nause
will go away. i am really beginning to think that the
nausea occurs when my sugars are really low.(i don’t
have the stuff to test proberly so i am only
guessing.) but when i start having the really bad
nausea, and then lower my meds some, for a while the
nausea subsides. then i think my sugar dips some more
adn the nausea starts in again. i have 1 week left til
i completly discontinue my glucovance adn then i will
start weaning off the levemir and see what happens.
March 5th, 2004 at 11:49 pm
i am really beginning to think that the
nausea occurs when my sugars are really low.
I haven’t had the problem with nausea with Byetta but I have had a stomach
ache for the last 24 hours. (That’s why I’m up at 5 a.m. writing this,
because I couldn’t sleep with a stomach ache!) Its not the kind of stomach
discomfort that comes from eating too much but is more of a feeling of bloating
and
heaviness in my stomach. The thought of eating doesn’t even appeal to me,
which is something rare indeed for me! Has anyone else had a problem with
stomach aches? I do have a problem of excess stomach acid which I treat with
Prilosec and that usually controls the problem, or it did before anyway. But
this doesn’t really feel like heartburn but more like I have a ball of lead in
my belly. I hope the feeling is something that goes away as my body adjusts
to the Byetta. Yesterday 5 hours after my biggest meal of the day (which I
ate out in another city and didn’t take my Byetta before), my blood sugar was
up to 134. For my last meal of the day, I took my Byetta and a half hour
later ate a nutrition bar and a cup of low sugar cranberry juice. I tested my
blood sugar an hour after that and it was down to 74. I didn’t take metformin
at that meal so the Byetta must have brought it down that much. Janet
March 6th, 2004 at 7:42 am
some foods cause me to really have that lead ball in
the stomach feeling. salad is probably the worst. it
will sit on my stomach all blessed day if i have it
for lunch. i go to bed fighting with me. it is kind of
a trial and error thing to discover which foods do
that to you. i also have a problem with the acid
building up in my stomach at times. when i Know for
instance i only ate half a cup of yogurt for lunch
but i feel totally gorged. and i KNOW i have only had
enough water to swallow my pills. i usually end up
vomiting when i am like that and the volume thereof
far excedes the amount i have taken in. so my stomach
really is over full on those occasions, but with
stomach acid, not food
March 6th, 2004 at 10:17 pm
from your mouth to God’s ears!
jodi
Yes, I took the Byetta in the afternoon and then went home and have not
taken
another shot of Lantus. I have dropped another 5 lb as of today. I think
taking Byetta has the overall affect of improving all metabolic functions.
It is
kind of a domino effect. Lose weight BG improves, BG improves and vitality
comes back, start walking because it is easier now and BP begins to come
down. It
just keeps getting better and better. Lizard Lovers of the world, guess
what,
It is your day. John
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March 16th, 2004 at 4:08 am
hanging head (with fingers crossed behind back) I’m
sorry Andrew, i won’t do it again, i promise….anyone
have any good recipes for mealworm and cricket
lasagna???
March 19th, 2004 at 1:49 pm
should i change to silkworms to knit that up??? i
wouldn’t doubt it. i have a hystory thereof. and i
know you know my situaton. before i was taking
protonix, reglan and carafate. i don’t have any other
symptoms though. no blood in the vomitus and no signs
of blood in my stool. i will talk to my doc about it
on my next visit